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you are quite welcome. I am completely OSX, as well. Numerology looks very cool....but I love my max/msp..... As Kris has noted, while raising two kids, maintaining a relationship with his wife, and having a full-time job. He made his vst host....in a very short period using his free time. It does exactly what he wants it to do, the way he wants to do it. Defining the term "flexible software instrument." But here is the big plus: He realized how relatively clear cut it is, so he took and expanded on the knowledge gained from constructing the host, and is now making his own audio patches, and making them into plugins....delays, pitch transposers, et al Mobius to mac would be awesome....(I know, I've said it before)....but until then, I'm very happy with the loopers I've constructed. I've recently added overdubbing loopers with pitch transposition and degradation on the feedback channels. Too much fun. Also: Regarding Zoe's problem. the midiparse object in max routes specific midi data to specific outlets, putting everything in its own place. so, if midi data artifacts were being generated in the wrong place, they would not get through to the end of that stream....I had this problem before, when I used to do more midi control, but midiparse fixed it. best, Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.JeffKaiser.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:47 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Phiew... thanks! :-) I use almost solely OSX software, but since > Mobius appeared I also keep a Windows XP license on the side. It's > good to know Max is truly cross platform so l can keep it on my > shopping list (if Mobius should not go OSX, enabling me to use it with > Numerology - but I guess there's not much hope for that)