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i haven't heard the record in question, but i have produced a record for phil ( and a few unreleased tracks..) i know him to be one of the really most amazing musicians around. i would tend to agree with you about him using a similar mode of looping. and again, i haven't heard these tracks in particular.. but i have heard him take a baroque ground bass melody and play it backward so that it can be played properly with all the attacks going the wrong way and them play stuff that bach might have been proud of over that, add ebow melodies and volume swell textures that were just achingly beautiful.. and then after the show i'd ask (assuming he'd worked it out in advance) "hey phil what was that?" and he'd basically have no recollection of it. it was just spontaneous. i have also heard him sit down with an acoustic guitar in a dressing room and play some counterpoint (sort of late baroque meets ralph vaughn williams) and watched him retune the strings several steps (without really missing a beat) and keep playing whatever tune it was in a radically new tuning. again, when i asked him about it later, he was just improvising. i doubt on a sonic innovation level he won't ever be able to hang with folks like torn (who has lots of respect for phil.. we've talked about a record that has both of them on it in the past...) but as a musician, he's almost in a league of his own. my two cents On Oct 9, 2006, at 6:32 AM, a k butler wrote: ric hordinski www.richordinski.com www.myspace.com/monasterystudio > I've only heard the clips, but didn't think this made it as an > essential looping album. > Every track, and there are many, seems to be made in exactly the > same way, layering up a backing and then soloing over it, and being > made the same way they can hardly help but tend towards a > similarity of musical impression. Not that the individual tracks > aren't good in isolation, but to compile them all together like > that just creates pleasant aural wallpaper. > > If Phil Keaggy is famous enough to bring looping more public > recognition (I wouldn't know, I only heard of him here at LD) then > this album might create a useful reference point for some of us to > explain our music. > > andy butler > (doesn't anyone else have an opinion?)