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Then the DD-20 (I looper that I own and love) will not work for you at all. Why? No device can loop perfectly forever unless it can sync to a MIDI clock. You'll get drift. It sneeks up on you pretty fast and very quickly you will not have a loop that is synced to your drums. Devices that do sync to a drum machine do exist. A few that come to mind that are still in production are are the Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro, the Electro-harmonix 2880 and the new Boss RC-50 Loopstation, though reports say the Loopstation not all that good at being a slave to your drum machine's MIDI clock. (something you need to make perfectly synced loops) Also, for deluxe goodness there's the Looperlative which also syncs well to MIDI clock. My favorite hardware looper is still the Eletrix Repeater, but it's long out of production, but I'm estimating that v2 will be released by Electrix in the year 2112. If you can find one on ebay I say get one. A good number of us, including me, have abandoned dedicated hardware and have gone to software based looping. The software (Mobius) is free, but by the time you've purchased a laptop and audio interface and midi controller you've dropped a least $1500. Get a fast machine with a lot of ram. If you have all this already, then you're set. Go to http://www.zonemobius.com and download. It's great. PC only. Shame nothing like it exists for the Mac, but but Augustus Loop is pretty damn fun. Good luck, Mark --- weaviestonder <weaviestonder@hotmail.it> wrote: That is why I need perfect timing control over my loops: they need tobe perfectly synchronized with the drum track I run in the background. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com