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At 19:40 29/10/2006, you wrote: >Yes. But but regarding the step sequencer, it depends on what is >driving the time. I have never used (so it doesn't bother me) midi >sync, but I understand that it is not great in max. Very good indeed in Bidule. If you have a tap time looper with midi sync out it's no problem to sync to it. You could even have a number of different loopers, running at different tempi, each with synced fx Bidule hosts all sorts of vsts, any no. of channels, and lets you hook them up any way you like (audio, midi, sync), and you can do that while the audio is actually running. pc & mac ( AU supported on mac) not expensive It has simple midi synced loop components if you needed those too. ........BUT It doesn't have the "support base" here that MAX has :-) andy