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While I think they've become mildly "discovered" now, the Peavey classic amps are really quite good (in the tube category). I have a really old Classic 20 (no longer made) and it's very very nice. I think the Peavey brand allows these to be a little cheaper than equivalents. Clark P.S. I don't believe I've intro'd myself to the list. I'm an "aging" musician who was once in a touring/recording band that nobody ever heard of (hence the "once"). I recently purchased an RC-20xl after spending hours with the 22 seconds the giga delay's SOS feature allowed. I use "looping" mainly for composition of standard indie rock/pop stuff. Occasionally, late at night after several Maker's Marks, I indulge in some noise-scaping. During the holiday break here in the US I plan on picking up the boss foot switch that allows you to switch from loop to loop on the RC-20xl. Question: does anyone remember/know of a looper/composer type who's name I believe was Paul Dresser or something like that from the early 80s? I saw him at the Walker Art Center and I recall being transfixed. I'd like to get some of his music. I believe he was from California and something makes me think it was the San Fransisco area. He had a reel-to-reel with the arms extended several feet in each direction. He also had what looked to be a set of pedals off a large church organ that he'd hacked into his reel-to-reel to control record on/off and track on/off. He did pieces with a guitar and others with a simple casio keyboard. Finally, he played bare foot, I think to better work the organ pedals. Thanks in advance for any info. On Monday, December 18, 2006, at 06:40AM, "Paul Mimlitsch" <pmimlitsch@mac.com> wrote: >kris; >here's a great little amp for a no frills solid state "straight up" >jazz amp: << http://www.jazzamp.com/index.asp >>. no bells/ whistles >but great eq section and "put the others to shame" jazz tone. > >for tubes and lots of ins/ outs (effects loop, xlr out, channel >switching etc.) in a small powerful package, I've found the: << >http://www.traynoramps.com/products.asp?type=1&cat=18&id=251 >> to be >real good all around amp. I followed the lead of most reviews and >replaced the stock "Sovtek" tubes with "EuroTubes" for a smoother tone. > > > >