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If you have it in your Repeater's effects loop, 24bit might not be that much important as you think ;). Also, "not break the bank" is not very specific - what breaks your bank? I have to second some of the recommendations already given (Vortex, with its only drawbacks the very unintuitive user interface and the lack of MIDI sync and the Kaoss Pad), as well as to add the Nord Modular series. The MicroModular is not rack based but tabletop-style, but it gives you great audio processing power, especially with the tons of envelopes, LFOs, step sequencers and logical operators. Sadly, no reverb and only minimum amount of delay. The G2 engine doesn't have these limitations, but is much more expensive and does not have an UI of its own - you'll need a MIDI controller even to switch patches. I personally enjoy the (Eventide) Eclipse very much for ambient/interesting stuff, but this might be in the bankbreaking department... Rainer ________________________________ Von: Tony Hughes [mailto:hughes.tony@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 18. Dezember 2006 21:03 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: effects racks? I've been looking into rack based effects processors to use while looping. Wondering what people use to create ambient/interesting effects. I will mainly be running a keyboard through the fx insert loop on my repeater, but will also be using my harmonica/vocals and anything else I can think of to make sounds. Delay/Reverb etc...are all great, but I'm also looking for interesting special effects sounds (the crazier the better)...Would have to be stereo based and hopefully include a 24bit processor, but not break the bank. Thought I might ask the list. Tony