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I found the Repeater did it's best (and hid it's short commings) when it was in the effects loop of a decent mixer. I have a cheap soundcraft that works pretty well and an even cheaper Behringer that I used to take out to gigs. I think a lot of people's complaints about the Repeater's noise floor came from people who used the front instrument input and/or plugged the output into a guitar amp of some sort. I'm sure the Repeater doesn't have the best S/R but hooked up correctly it was pretty decent. (there's also a mod which will get you a few more db of dynamic range) In my Repeater's loop was a Korg KAOSS pad and a dbx stereo compressor/expander. The KAOSS pad was for pure loop mangleage and the dbx was to reign it in when it got a bit too out of control as the KP-2 can get. Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com