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Wow! Thanks everyone for the great advice. I’ve got an external USB sound card (M-audio fast track pro) with the lovely feature to cross fade dry input and wet output from the machine, which is exactly the desired effect. Supercollider rocks, have you guys played with c-sound? Chainer looks perfect, I’ll do some experimentation tonight and send you links to what comes out!
-Miles
From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:58 PM
To: Miles Ward
Cc: Krispen Hartung
Subject: Fwd: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS
thanks kris
I'm forwarding this to Miles. Hopefully he's home from work now - almost 10:00
And Mileage - some answers below:
Begin forwarded message:
Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
Date: January 8, 2007 9:38:21 PM PST
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
If he wants to keep things simple with not a lot of programming or fiddlig with virtual wires, commands, etc, I'd use something like the Chainer VST host, with a decent sound card, and then take advantage of all the free VST plugins available on KVR Audio.
Here is something I wrote up for another person interested in getting his feet wet with VST plugins:
1. Download the demo version of Chainer: http://www.xlutop.com/html/downloads.html
2. Download these free VST plugins, and put the .dll files in the same folder, somewhere on your CD drive:
• tube amp simulator: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html(it is free, and absolutely delightful..very warm and natural sounding)
• compressor: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1144.html (really nice, and free)
• reverb: http://www.anwida.com/product.asp?pid=7 (excellent and free)
• chorus: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1860.html(it is free, and absolutely
delightful...very warm and natural sounding)
• delay: http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-delay.php (also free)
• More here: http://www.kvraudio.com, and http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php
3. Launch Chainer. There is a dropdown menu for Options...there is a place where you tell it where your VST directory is (Plugin Directories)...just point it to the director with your VST dll files. You also need to select your soundcard in the System and Settings section
4. The first slot of your Chainer rack is your input. Just click on the drop down arrow and click "Insert Input"
5. Now click on the next drop down arrow for the next rack slot, and click Effects...you should see the VSTs you put in your directory. Fill the next five slots with the above VSTs, or more...you can use a different order if you want.
6. To deactivate a plugin, you click the button that is between the plug-in window and the section with Wet, Pan, Dry, etc To see the plugin window, parameters, etc, just press the button with "1" in it. You can tweak the settings and then save them by click on "Presets" and "save as". You can tweak the dry and wet mixes in each lot as well.
This will get anyone up and running with a VST system. For a tuba player, I would recommend running the laptops sound card inputs/outputs through the effects loop of a mixer board, so that he can use higher quality inserts, and also have manual/hardware based control of the mix.
Have him email me if he wants more guidance.
Kris
----- Original Message -----
From:Richard Sales
To:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc:Miles Ward
Sent:Monday, January 08, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject:Re: question for a friend - MILES! READ THIS
He's a Windows systems designer, a wanderer and master of terabytes, fiber networks and tubas... and he's always been a windows man so I'm assuming that's what he's using. Mies, are you there? Yoooo hoooooo! (It's 9:00 p.m. - he's probably just leaving work).
thanks
richard sales
glassWing farm and studio
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On 8-Jan-07, at 8:30 PM, mech wrote:
At 7:03 PM -0800 1/8/07, Richard Sales wrote:
So he wants to play his tuba live and use VST plug ins live - and HEAR the plug ins live, real time. I think I've been reading about 'all of y'all' doing that so if you have an answer you can reply to Miles in the CC,,, OR I'll copy and forward your replies. He is, by the way, one killer tuba (actually sousaphone) player and a fabulous person. Plays in my sometimes band, The Musical Fruit.
Yeah, you're right. Lots of people here do that exact kind of thing (unless I'm missing a level of complexity in your question), and there are a lot of ways to do it depending upon one's personal preferences.
Quick question to start, however: is there a computing platform he prefers (Mac, Win, or Linux)?
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