On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Richard Sales wrote:
Hi Teddy
I haven't done it but I've been thinking
about it. I think I would slave my RC 50 to MIDI Time Code from Pro
Tools - or vice versa. So you need some kind of time clock - if your
Pro Tools interface isn't generating one - to slave your system to.
Then all the elements SHOULD sync up nicely.
maybe I didn't enunciate it right.
I don't even want to slave the 2
together. I just want to record the looped elements into pro tools
again individually and have them so I can mix.
the problem I have is that the RC-50's
tempo is not what it says it is, according to pro tools.
Well... I haven't tried this so I don't
know. Are you using Pro
Tools as a sequencer for MIDI stuff?
I would just not use the tempo function in Pro Tools if
you're not using it as a sequencer.
But I might not be understanding what's going on still.
I've never had any luck with tempos and
sync without some master clock running the show.
the problem with that would be that the RC-50 was running the clock
when the first thing was recorded, so how is clocking to pro tools
going to lock any better? the RC-50 is clocking to itself fine, it's
just that... well. ok... here's my process:
1 play awesome song with band live and loop stuff
RC-50 gets recorded onto it's own mono channel in PT (I run it
all out of it's own amp)
I set the tempo in PT to match the RC-50's
I line up the whole song so the loops recorded live start where
the tempo starts and the band follows
everything is fine for 8 bars or so, but then it starts drifting
by the end of the song the click is an 1/8 note off from the
live RC-50 part
SO the main problem for me is that the RC-50's tempo is not what
it says it is.
my fix so far has been to play with the tempo in pro tools to
try to get it to line up with my recorded RC-50 loops
seems like the RC-50 is off by about .05 bpm
so if my RC-50 tempo is 120 I have to set PT to 119.95 to synch
with what I've recorded
the reason I want to do this is because later I want to grab
those parts from the RC-50 so I can get separated sounds to mix in with
the amp sound.
I don't want to have to record the whole song in, I just want to
record 1 phrase and loop it in pro tools.
If I didn't use a tempo in pro tools I wouldn't be able to loop
the parts in pro tools as easily.
I guess another fix could be to just play the stuff from the
RC-50 how it is for the whole song and not set a tempo in pro tools and
just line that up to the down beat of my recorded loops, that should be
a more accurate fix actually. then I can just ignore the tempo like
Andy butler suggested.
One problem I have with the RC 50 is
even when the click or rhythm track is set to go out the sub it comes
out the main into my guitar amp. Hummmm! Not good.
that you can set per patch OR globally
in the system menu. if you do it per patch you have to set in each
patch. I use a 3 amp setup with gtr loops in one, vocal loops in
another and the crappy drum machine through all sorts of weirdness out
the mains. the drag for me is you can't pan the guide drums.
I've done this and it still leaks out
the main! I've done it
globally and per patch. I'm
a little mystified.
weird, that doesn't happen here. I will check again though.
Got a Fulltone Tube Tape Echo and that's
been a blast. My old tape Echoplex was having a near death experience
so it's going off to the hospital (and hopefully not the morgue) soon.
Two new (old) amps coming soon. Late fifties early sixties Magnatone
213s. A Durham Sex Drive. New Area 51 guts for my Cry Baby. Fun stuff.
ahhhh... nice. I have 5 magnatones, they
are amazing.
Well... I have three - or will when the
next two arrive. I love
the sound so much. Very
thick and rich and fat. One
of the last real bargains in vintage amps.
have you check out the magnatone/valco yahoo group? some very
informative magnatone people on there.
Teddy
