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Re: OT: The Police on Tour



On this point, I read an inspiring (if rambling) article recently (I think it was probably a college kid's essay that got published on the web:  http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue6_8/pfahl/) that pointed out exactly what you said about kids getting all their music for free anyway, cited the current fan-boy culture, and proposed that independent musicians could make a living by giving away all their music and using it to build a loyal cultish fan base that would support them in other creative ways (t-shirts, stickers, etc. as well as online donations, pay-to-join live chat sessions, etc.).  The beginning of the article is pretty slow, but it's interesting because he talks about how most groups that do get signed by a label still only scrape out a meager living, and the label is free to dump the artist at any time if they lose interest.  It's much more secure to take matters into your own hands since your own well-being is always in your best interest.

A good non-musical example of the concept proposed would be the Homestar Runner website (http://www.homestarrunner.com).  People visit the site to laugh at their stupid Flash cartoons, which they give away for free.  They don't even sell ads on the site.  All the work is done by two brothers who make a living off of merch sales through the HR store.

It's a completely different model than what I've seen modeled, but I think with some dedication and creativity, it could certainly be applied successfully to a musical career.

--Josh



Arne R. Skage jr wrote:
Its beside the point to start ranking "chops"/sales figures, One elitism isnt any prettier than the next. As one pointed out the industry is weakening due to the internet and the consumers shopping habbits. This is bad for the ones raking inn the big money, but it also makes life harder for the struggeling / up and comming musician.  Everyone has their own "studio",  everyone is on myspace , This is good for the small comunities (like the looping comunity) but its getting harder to get heard as the "noisfloor" has risen dramaticly.., Of cours there are example  of bands having sucsess via myspace etc. but generaly I think the "paying" public is the only winner , the loosers are the musicians, wherever they are in the foodchain (usually at the bottom). The atitude of the kids here today is  "why pay for music when you can get it for free?",  The result is that the strugeling musicians give away their recorded music and do gigs for free ( or even pay to play) in hope that one day.... they will become....STING
 


 
2007/2/15, Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>:
On 2/15/07, Arne R. Skage jr <arneskage@gmail.com> wrote:
> Welcome to the cruel world of competion, its a jungle out there so go get
> them tiger...

That argument worked a lot better a few decades ago when there was a
flat playing field and actual musicians could do pretty well.

Tell me -- aside from dinosaur acts, what current top 10 musician/pop
star is famous for their musicianship?

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> 2007/2/14, Tom Ritchford < tom@swirly.com>:
> > "Oh Sting, Where is thy Death?"  :-D
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> > Do remember that there are only a finite number of entertainment and
> > particularly music dollars.  And even for people with unlimited funds,
> > they only have so many nights to go out.
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> > For each dinosaur band that takes in $300 million on tour, that's $300
> > million that isn't going to other musicians like us.
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> > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar
> > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little...
> > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently)
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> Arne R. Skage jr.
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> 91157204
> arne@skage.com
>  www.skage.com


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http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar
http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little...
http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently)



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Arne R. Skage jr.

91157204
arne@skage.com
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