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From: "GORDIUS info" <info@gordius.be>
>
> I'd like to add one question to this :
> What kind of (physical) volume control device do you target, Bob? Something
> else than a foot pedal?
> I'm asking, because I am currently testing out a new design for a
> MIDI-controlled foot pedal. And to me it seems that the "physical range" of
> a standard foot pedal is no more than 7 bit. I mean : I have trouble making
> small enough movements to change the control value with 1 single step in the
> 128-value range. Therefore I believe a 10-bit ADC wouldn't make any sense
> when using a footpedal, but maybe you have another type of controller in
> mind?
>
> (if you intend to manipulate the linear footpedal range and make it a
> non-linear transition cur ve, I would believe you will get much better
> results just using a 7-bit to n-bit lookup table in firmware, rather than
> doing it with some analog signal manipulation followed by 10-bit AD
> conversion).
>
> Xavier
> http://www.gordius.be
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Larson [mailto:jeff@zonemobius.com]
> Sent: zaterdag 17 februari 2007 23:35
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Considering building an ultimate looper...
>
> Ok, here's some friendly advice.
>
> Be careful tossing out words like "ultimate looper" on this list. So far
> you've described a rather basic looper, except that you seem to be obsessed
> with the resolution of the output level control. In all the wish lists and
> product reviews that appear regularly on this list, this is not a feature
> that I remember being mentioned.
>
> If you're intending to compete in the hardware looper market, I would be
> much more concerned about things like continuous feedback, synchronization
> with external MIDI clocks, pitch and rate shifting, and "editing" functions
> like insert, multiply, replace, etc.
>
> Second, the insinuation that the Looperlative is not "professional level" is
> likely to annoy the many professional level musicians that use it, as well
> as the professional level musicians that use other devices and software with
> a MIDI volume control.
>
> Quick show of hands. Does anyone find that their musical ambitions are
> being stymied by the resolution of their volume pedal?
>
> I don't doubt that there are devices that could do a better job smoothing
> controller changes, or providing a more musically useful attenuation curve
> at the top end of the range. But there are software soluti ons to these
> problems that are quite effective if not perfect.
>
> I don't mean to sound discouraging, but this strikes me as a rather odd
> feature to be focusing on. Before you start investing money in this
> venture, be sure you have a good understanding of the market for hardware
> loopers.
>
> Jeff
>