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On 20 feb 2007, at 07.01, mark sottilaro wrote: > At first I thought this wouldn't belong here, but then > I realized that it came with loopers! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&sspagename=STRK > %3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190084807931&rd=1&rd=1 Yes, I agree that the Electronic Instruments suite rock. Didn't know NI discontinued them. But anyway, I wouldn't buy another product from NI because their licensing policy makes it difficult for me. I move around a lot to play, produce recordings or teach other producers and students. Then I often need to use my instruments with different computers and NI doesn't let you move the software license a lot between machines, as most other software manufacturers do. You are allowed to activate your software license on two machines, but if you need to use a third machine for some particular project you will have to deactivate one of the first two. This is all fine so far, but the bad hook is that you will never in the future be allowed to re- activate any of those first two machine's licenses. So in praxis I can't use NI's products because I'm a pro. Ridiculous, isn't it! I already own Kontakt 2 and the EWQL symphonic orchestra library, which are great as music production products, but I doubt I will ever buy anything more from NI. My conscience would haunt me for ever if I supported their business morals any further. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release)