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Excellent questions, Margaret, and I appreciate the level of discussion they have brought to the list today! Reminds me of the old daze.... I guess ih I had to formulate how I perceive in-tuneness vs. out-of-tuneness, it comes down to how in tune the performance is with its intent. Therefore, gamelan, mbira music, Bob Dylan and the Shaggs, to name just a few, sound perfectly in tune to me, they are absolutely playing/singing the pitches they intend, and it sounds perfect. My own singing, a roomful of 5th-grade band campers trying their instruments for the first time, and any number of singer-songwriters I've recorded sound out of tune, because they are not delivering the intended pitches. Whether the intended pitches correspond to 12tet means pretty much nothing to me. Last friday, I saw an amazing concert of classical North Indian music at the U of Oregon music school, sitarist Kartik Seshadri and Arup Chatterjee on tabla. For the entire 2.5 hours of the concert, nothing was in 12tet, and not a note was out of tune, both in pitch and emotional resonence. Amazing concert, absolutely incredible musicianship. Seshadri was a student of Ravi Shankar. He currently lives and teaches in San Diego, if you have a chance to see him, do so, he's amazing, as is Chatterjee. Also spent some time listening to a relatively recent Terry Riley album of duets with bassist Stefano Scodanibbio. Riley tunes his synth to just intonation, and many of the intervals are pretty breathtaking. Dissonance seems to be much more meaningful in JI. Even though some of the synth patches tend to the cheesy side of the burger, it's a pretty cool album. I've been meaning to track down his stuff for JI Prophet 5's from the 70's, I imagine with an analog synth, the intonation would be more profound. My main instruments are fretted electric bass and keys, so I'm usually stick in 12tet land. I have been playing with softsynths lately that support micro-tuning, particularly Cameleon 5000, which has a downloadable folder of thousands of TUN files for different microtunings. It's a bit overwhelming, but loads of fun. > hello list, > > first let me say that i am no music theory expert. > sometimes i obsess about this because i think my > compositions may sound ignorant due to my > shortcomings. but, other times when i listen to say, > other cultural music like music from bali or > thailand...i hear beauty that i love and i know the > scales are not adhearing to western thought. also, > with electronic music and sound art, it seems to me > that no key in necessary and that this is actually > desirable and standard. but, then i wonder if that is > how it is for all audiences and players? > > does it bother you to hear things that are not in key > according to western standards? if so, why? > > thanks for your input, love to hear your thoughts! > > Margaret Noble > Audio Artist > http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > >