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I find a lot of value in the re-examination of "easy language" that aesthetic anti-cognitivism encourages. Stop saying things you don't mean folks! I feel that I'm closer to the truth of the matter when I give that kind of finite context to my evaluations, or when others do so when evaluating me. It tastes to me to be more genuine, rewarding. Tasty! -Miles -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:01 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Well OT Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >> If you understand the theory and premises, then you will understand the >> points I made. > Unless the theory is flawed, which it seemed to be. They're all flawed, so that seems to be a moot point, not an advantage to any of us. You aren't offering a counter-theory that you think is not flawed, I hope...correct? Find me a speculative theory of these sorts that is both complete and consistent (showing that Gödel was wrong). Flawed is a requirement of even being invited to the poker game. It is the thinkers in human history who claim that their theories are air tight and have no flaws that scare us and become dangerous. I like flawed. It means that speculative thinking is not a dead discipline, and that all those philosophy books in the libraries ought not to be burned afterall, because each theory has some piece of expanding human understanding. So, I am cool with retorts that a theory is flawed, provided one also admits that the theory they are proposing in its place has its own imperfections, and that we have agreed to take the analysis down a deeper level. But I think we may have worked this out offline, eh? Kris