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Arggggg...this is what I was afraid of. For a concept so simple, we'd think the differnet software companies would make it easier for us. I just need to go from my soundcard input to Reaktor, from Reaktor's output to Mobius input, and from Mobius output to my sound card's output. Easier said than done. So I guess programs like Re-Wire sort of fake a sound card's IO, so that you can route to and from it, and then to other apps? I guess I need to buy a more sophisted audio interface (like one of the m-audio firewire units) that has multiple inputs/outputs, many virtual input/outputs, etc. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Larson" <jeff@zonemobius.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Anyone running both Mobius and Reaktor as Standalone? > > > I'm trying to figure out how I could run both Mobius and Reaktor as > > standalone apps. > > The only reliable way to do this would be to use a multi-channel > sound card, and physically patch the Mobius and Reaktor channels > together like you would with a hardware patch bay. > > Ideally, this is what Rewire is all about. Unfortunately > the paranoids at Propellorhead will not make the Rewire toolkits > available to individual developers such as myself, you have > to be a company that develops commercial products. Someday I > may try to go through the legal rigamarole necessary to claim > that I'm a "company" but this cost money and time I don't have > right now. > > The fine folks over at Cockos, makers of Reaper and Ninjam, have > been working on something called ReaRoute which is conceptually > similar to ReWire but looks to the application as if it was > a normal ASIO device. I had some trouble with this when I > tried it about 6 months ago. > > There are a few other audio piping devices floating around, but they > don't work very well. If you want to try one of these, don't pay the > shareware price before you make sure it will work. > > Jeff > >