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I use Native Instruments Akoustik Piano, which I bought after reading a comparison article in Electronic Musician. I currently run it in Bidule, but went through a period of experimenting with Live. In both programs it functions splendidly. The sound is fantastic. I work at a University so can buy software from the academic suppliers, so you may not be able to match the price. I bought it from Academic Superstore; their current price is $134.95. Others have recently posted some very valid concerns about NI's licensing restrictions. I keep my music computer completely off the 'net so it has been maybe even more of a hassle for me. That said, I love the program. Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: aaron leese [mailto:aaronleese@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: VSTi piano - or other laptop synth Sampler is the word I am looking for --- not just a piano (though I can't even find a good free VST piano out there). Anyway, there are a you mentioned that I haven't checked out, so that certainly gives me something to do ...... I'm gonna dig into Reason today ... I get a lot of mixed reactions for that one ..... And yeah, I was thinking about just sampling the triton settings that I like ... seems like that is gonna be the best solution. Tchuss: Aaron >From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: VSTi piano - or other laptop synth >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:56:17 +0100 > >On 26 feb 2007, at 03.18, aaron leese wrote: > >>Here a tangentially related topic ..... >> >>I need a good keyboard synth program .... because I have a midi >>controller (keyboard), and a rack mounted synth, but would like to sell >>the rack mounted equip and use just a laptop (save space)..... >> >>Sampletank is good (but very expensive) ... I have been looking for >>alternatives, but with little luck. The only free ones I found (4front >>and MDA) are mediocre, and have some latency issues running with VSThost. >> >>Can anyone offer advice on this? I wouldn't mind spending a few >>hundred >>if I can get something that will replace my korg triton rack > > >Hi Aaron, > >It's difficult to find an answer to such a broad question. Is it >"piano >sound" you are looking for? Or is it "synth sound"? And if so, what type >of synth? You mention Sampletank, but that's a sampler; meaning it may >mimic many instruments but lack the dynamics and envelope option you get >with synths. And if you are looking for something in software to replace a >Korg Triton - that's not going to be easy. The Triton is very versatile >and has great built-in effects that play a big part in its sound shaping >capability. > >Maybe you should simply buy a software sampler and sample the output >of >your Triton (including effects and all) before you sell it? I've done that >to two of my analog synths using the excellent "synth patch ripping" >software AutoSampler from REdmatica. It runs on OSX but I just noticed the >other day that another company have now ripped off that application to >provide a Windows version. Speaking about samplers I have heard a lot good >about SampleTank. Myself I mainly use the sampler ESX24, which is part of >Logic, because of Logic's way of globally handling micro tonal scales. I >also own NI's Kontakt 2 that is maybe the best sampler if you look to what >you can do with it. Question is if you're ever going to do all that stuff >that K2 offers to? (also NI's user license may be a problem if you work on > many machines - more than two - and need to move the sampler between >them). If you start with getting a software sampler you need to expand the >laptops RAM to the max and get a huge hard drive, eventually an external >firewire drive for all those samples. > >A software synth that I personally like is Arturias Moog Modular 5. It >has >a good sound (which can not be said about every other software synth out >there). Deep fat sound, good high end, musical sounding with great >filters. The downside IMO is that it had no way of tuning it into fixed >micro tonal scales. If you want the classic Moog sound, the MMV is a good >choice. > >I also like the Cameleon 5000. It uses additive synthesis and is >capable >of some unique sounds. Whenever I can't use Logic and its built-in >modeling synth Sculpture I go for C5k (Logic only runs on Mac). What I >like about C5k (as with all Logic's synths) is that it can be set to all >kinds of micro tonal scales. There are a lot of demo tracks at the web >site so you can hear how it sounds http:// www.camelaudio.com/ > >Synths and samplers that I have bought but and not use much, because I >don't like their quality of sound, are Reason (a complete production >environment) and Albino 3. Not saying they are bad, I just don't like the >way they sound. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) >http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices you'll love. 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