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>Actually I don't think Roland have a lot of bugs in their gear. > >I'd be fairly certain they have guys to systematically test their >products. >( but who wouldn't conceive what LDers would want to do with it) But the major complaints so far with the RC-50 have to to with audio interruptions, either from recording or switching loops. How is it that the Lexicon Jamman has no such issues and the RC-50 does? Too many features and not enough DSP / memory to go around. Is this a bug? The official reply is "If you don't like it, don't use that feature". Defining a 'bug' is tricky. Sometimes a 'bug' is let through because it's not considered a problem in normal use. On the other hand... The EH 16 second delay has a time stretch feature. It's really wacky and can be used with the tempo slider in real time to add odd textures to the loop. The designer excluded this feature on the 2880 because he didn't like the sound. In one sense this 'feature' was a 'bug' and 'fixed' in the next product. > >> As a beta tester, I was perhaps the only member of the 'team' who >>dealt extensively and exclusivly with the end product. >>The basic reality is that the alpha and beta devices are broken and >>malfunctioning and need sombody with excellent troubleshooting -and >>particularly communication - skills to sus them out. > >wanna job ? :-) What need testing? > >> At some point, there is a 'drop dead' date and the thing gets >>released, warts and all. > >Well, I'd agree with that. > >That's why the LP-1 thing works so well. >There's no cut off date. >The buyer is a tester, and possibly a contributor. >...and generally buyers end up happy. > >The same model works for software loopers. > >andy butler -- ... http://www.zmix.net