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wow, that's a lot of gear, sounds very expensive. At the moment, becaue I play in a conventional band, I'm working on getting my computer set up armed with the latest version of Cubase so I can record our album. I tend to play some keys, so I would be using the MIDI to play the VST organ and synths. I'd love to put together a band of sorts, involving an electronic percussionist, and a keyboard player, and I'd loop between guitar and bass. Anyway, you definitely know how to make it work, you do good stuff. --- Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > > http://www.looproom.com/aol/01_Patterns.mp3 > > > On 8 mar 2007, at 18.36, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > > > I noticed that, I also was caught up in the beat. > If > > I'm not mistaken, I thought I heard a bit of > LaFosse > > influence in there, must be the EDP functions and > your > > use of them. Again, incredible stuff, sounds > like > > I'd better save my pennies and get an EDP, because > > after hearing that, sounds like nothing else will > do. > > How did you run the wah pedal? It sounds like a > > filter instead of a regular wah sound, like you > ran it > > through an effects loop rather than pre input, > well > > being that you were probably miked, that's about > the > > only way to do it. My current pedalboard has two > wahs > > on it one is post preamp for that filtery sound. > When > > I finally can immerse myself into looping, I > thought > > about the possibility to use loopers throughout my > > chain, for instance, one up front, so that my > effects > > can process the loop, and then one in back to > capture > > it for layering of tracks. How do you run your > chain > > for your set up? > > > You're asking how I'm running my chain for "my set > up", but fact is > that the "Patterns" piece was not produced with the > live concert set > up I'm using today (I use a couple, actually), so I > need to deal with > the questions on at a time. This "Patterns" was a > live looping EDP > improvisation that were recorded in a studio. That > environment gives > you more control than performing live on stage. The > studio routing > was as this: > > - Sax mic were split into two parallel lines. > - One sax signal going into one track on a > multitrack recorder (Logic > Pro on a computer with many audio inputs). > - Another sax signal going into the EDP. > - The EDP loop output going into another track on > the multitrack > recorder. > - The tempo set in Logic and the EDP syncing by MIDI > clock. > - A Behringer FCB1010 MIDI pedal board was used for > controlling the EDP. > - A software wha pedal simulation was opened on the > Logic track where > the direct sax was recorded (so the wha would not > affect the audio > looped on the EDP). I used the FCB1010's expression > pedal to work > that wha filter (yes, you are correct that I set it > more as a filter > than as the usual Cry Baby or Vox wha simulation > patches. > > Ok, those were the routings. So when playing I > recorded two mono > tracks: direct sax signal and EDP loops. Two other > tracks were > already recorded: Speach and percussion. I was > listening to these as > guidance for my improvisation. Functions used in the > EDP were > Overdub, SUSSubstitute (I guess that is the > character you have heard > in André LaFosse music), Speed and direct addressing > of the three loops. > > Finally, the recorded track of the EDP loops were > split up in Logic > to enter many different dynamic filterbanks. As I > remember a bunch of > Ohmforce Quadfrohmage. The pad like sound (where the > sax is going for > a long note and the percussion stops) was created in > the mix by > sending the sax signal (not the EDP looping) through > some Cycling74 > Pluggo effects (Rye and SpeedShifter, I think). > > So the effect processing were not done all the way > at the moment of > playing the looper and instrument. > > ----------------- > > How do you run your chain > > for your set up? > > If that addresses a live concert set up (guessing so > because you > mentioned your two wha pedal live setup) I'm doing > it much more > simple these days. Instrument going into an effect > processor going > into a laptop going into an analog stereo compressor > going into the > PA system. The laptop is loaded with Mobius (which > in essence is a > bunch of virtual stereo EDPs with a lot added > functionality) and a > little bit of reverb added to the looper output. > Mobius is picking up > the tempo I play in (by the length of the first loop > I make) and also > sending out MIDI Clock to my effect processor (so I > can sync or > desync delays and rhythmical filtering etc). I like > this set up > because it works well with flute, sax, guitar and > EWI played with the > built-in sounds. > > The http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 though was > not done on that > set up but on the laptop only, running Guitar Rig 2 > into Mobius. I > don't like the sound of Guitar Rig 2 so I don't > think I will use it > more. > > A third se up is playing MIDI with an EWI into Logic > on one laptop > and looping it in Mobius on a second laptop. I think > I will use that > a lot in the future. > > Then there are all kind occasional systems mocked up > by EDP and MIDI > synchronizable analog filterbank, but I only use > them in the studio > (when I need some special sound) because they are > too heavy to > transport to gigs. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265