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When I went stereo with my 2nd EDP I bought it from MF as a scratch & dent special. I could not find a single thing wrong with the unit, but the box was missing the owners manual. I already had one :-) Dennis > Just thought I'd put it out there that Musiciansfriend has a new > echoplex listed as "scratch and dent" for 25% off the normal price, in > case any of you are in the market. I've gotten some "scratch and dent" > items from them before and haven't been able to find anything wrong > with them...sometimes it's just that the box is messed up, or the > manual is missing, etc. >