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I think Rainer is refering to the "sound on sound" mode or the first preset which is in fact very limited,i find the other delay modes with long delay times a lot more interesting to loop with.I also find the delay tap feature on the DD-20 much more accurate than the DL-4, and of course the drop of volume of the DL-4 is really anoying which is more obvious playing live. Nevertheless i still love the DL4,has anybody (aside from Bill)done the mod on it? is it worth the 100.00 dlls? i am really tempted to do it! more on it here http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=40 Luis --- Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote: > On May 22, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Rainer Thelonius > Balthasar Straschill > wrote: > > > > > The DD20 has a looper mode which sucks > > Really? Why do you think that? I think the DD20's > a pretty capable > looper as pedals go. I compared it to the DL4 and > ended up buying it > instead because I need something with true feedback > control. You can > also make a loop and then start another one on top > of it which is > useful. > > M > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7