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On 3 jun 2007, at 12.06, Jens Wolters wrote: > Per, > > that is exactly the conclusion I just came too. I am trying Mobius > right > now. This seems to be perfect. > > But what is Mobius in Bidule? Is Bidule a bit like maxMSP ?? Yes. For my own needs I can achieve the same with Bidule as I would otherwise use maxMSP for. maxMSP is deeper for the "tweakers by heart" while Bidule has a user interface that is faster to get going with. I tried both but made my choice for Bidule, also because Bidule handles time in a musical way; as tempo and note duration, while maxMSP handles time in a technical way; as milliseconds. I have especially found Bidule good on the PC platform as a host for VST plug-ins. All plug-ins that have any tempo related functionality immediately give you the option to set them either be a sync master or the sync slave to some other plug-in. Typically I run Mobius as the sync master plug-in VST and everything else synced to Mobius VST by Bidule's built-in syncing system. Bidule's system is not ReWire and not MIDI Clock... I don't know what it, but it works well. On the Mac I don't use Bidule because the built-in sync is not working well with AU plug-ins and the Mac LOoper I prefer, Augustus Loop, is an AU plug-in. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://www.myspace.com/looproom http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/per.boysen/ http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/lo.fi.lazer/