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Yeah, me too ..... though I need to interject that for proper improvisational cooking, one must have a bottle of wine. >From: "Tony K" <bigtonyk@gmail.com> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: OT: thoughts on music and cooking >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:04:35 -0400 > >It makes complete sense to me. I too love to cook. But, I have a >different >approach. I approach cooking in much the same way I do making music. I >just make it up as I go along. I grew up in an Italian family, my >grandmother(s) just showed me how to make things. A very few thins there >were recipes for, but for the most part, it was just experience. I have a >general idea of what I want (the basics), then I just start throwing >things >in. So, my cooking and my music are never the same twice, but always an >adventure. :) Sometimes things fail miserably, you know like when I >accidentally put caraway seed in spaghetti sauce. not good. And sometimes >it's a gem. > >Tony > >On 6/7/07, Josh Carroll <josh@infinivert.com> wrote: >> >>In addition to creating music, I also like to cook. I especially like to >>making (or rather, attempting to make) sauces. >> >>A few years ago I set out to make the perfect salsa. It took me a few >>tries, but pretty quickly I came up with a recipe that embodied what I >>think >>salsa should taste like. All my friends love it too. I usually make it >a >>little thinner and milder than I would personally prefer, but I'm still >>happy with the flavor, and I feel like it has something unique about it; >a >>little bit of myself expressed in a sauce. >> >>This year I decided that my previous recipe was too complicated, so I set >>out to create a new recipe with half the ingredients. I nailed it on my >>first try, and honestly I think the simpler recipe tastes better (though >a >>couple of my friends would argue with me). >> >>However, I've also been trying to come up with a barbecue sauce recipe >>that embodies all I love about barbecue for a few years now, and after >>dozens of tries, I'm about ready to give up. Everything I make sucks, >and >>while a couple of my friends are nice enough to eat my experiments, I >know >>it's never very good. >> >>I think there are several reasons for the difference in success rates, >but >>perhaps the most important is this: I have an exact idea of the way I >>think >>salsa should taste, and I'm familiar enough with the ingredients to make >>that happen pretty much every time I make it (a few flops excepted). But >>when it comes to barbecue sauce, I've tasted so many different >influential >>sauces that I loved, from thin and vinegary to thick and sweet, spicy, >>brassy, smokey, tart, etc. that it's nearly impossible for me to >envision >>a >>sauce that captures my favorite things about each. Furthermore, there >are >>so many possibilities for different ingredients that I'm just not as >>familiar with, that when I taste a half-finished sauce and think "hmm... >>it >>needs a little of that sweet flavor from Sharon's house sauce," I'm left >>guessing at how to make that happen. >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>All of that to say, I look at a lot of you guys (and groups like The >>Books, Sigur Ros, etc.), and it at least appears that your efforts at >>making >>music flow the way salsa-making does for me. You know exactly what >you're >>going for, and you stick with it. Even when it takes a surprising turn, >>it >>still turns out great. And I've watched with envy as several of you have >>sold-off gear and simplified your sets (stripped out half of the >>ingredients) and come up with a new recipe that's even more profound and >>satisfying that what you did at first. >> >>But lately, making music has felt like trying to make the perfect >barbecue >>sauce to me. I have so many diverse influences and sounds in my head >that >>I >>want to combine, and I have all this technology at my fingertips that I'm >>just not as familiar with as I would like to be, that I feel overwhelmed >>by >>the endeavor. And everything I have come up with so far is just not >>satisfying to me. >> >>And I'd like at least a few people to think it's good too, but right now >>the artists I'm hearing who come closest (check out >>http://www.myspace.com/sonlux for one example) are too much of a stretch >>for even my most musically inclined friends. >> >>Has anyone else been here, or am I even making sense? Any words of >>wisdom? >> >>--Josh >> >> >> > > >-- >-==-=-=- >Tony _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm