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Jake asked: "I keep coming up with pretty good/interesting loops (guitar and drum backing) with my RC-50. But, I can't seem to develop a corresponding "verse" to the initial loop structure (following a somewhat standard song structure).Any ideas to help the creative juices flowing from this esteemed group of musicians?" Human beings process information through their senses which,essentially, just process differences or changes in the environment. Our senses pick up contrast in light, color, sound, pressure, smell, etc. We are pattern oriented so making simple contrasting changes in the form of a pattern can lead to really effective musical sections of a tune. Much can be accomplished in composition and arrangement by looking at very simple form structures. As an example: >From West African music we get the notion of CALL and RESPONCE try this technique with a song by: Play a measure A (CALL) Play a second measure that contrasts it either rhythymically, harmonically or timbrally B (RESPONSE) repeat A (CALL) Now play a variation of B, again, making the variation distinct either rhythmically, harmonically or timbrally C (2nd RESPONSE) Now play with the structure of these three measures ABAC ABCB etc. or string them together and very their forms in groups of four to make a meta-form AAAB = a AAAC = b AABC = c now play abac...............abcb.........................you get the idea. ************************ sometimes you can merely rearrange the timbre or instrumentation of a piece of music to get interesting simple results: Have the rhythm of the bass guitar and the rhythm of the drums switch positions and take on each other's roles from section to section. Many, many electronic dance tunes ONLY switch timbres during their different sections; completely eschewing harmonic changes or key changes. ************************ Harmonically, try modulating up or down with a groove you are using to create a new section or, Modally, base the next section by using one of the notes that isn't the tonic or 5th from the first section as the new 'tonic' of the next section but confine yourself to using only the notes in the key of the first section. Keep playing this game until you come up with results you like. It's amazing how little you can vary from one section of a composition to another as long as you self conciously create strong contrasts in any category of rhythm, harmony, timbre, dynamics or even density of note choices. Lastly, if you search these words BRIAN ENO OBLIQUE STRATEGIES at www.google.com They'll lead you to a website that gives you the ability to print out a series of cards that you can print out called OBLIQUE STRATEGY CARDS. Invented by the amazing multi-media artist, producer, BRIAN ENO, their whole purpose is to stimulate creativity when you are on the horns of a dilemma or just not feeling like you are creating interesting choices. You shuffle the deck, pick a card and force yourself to do whatever the card does. This is a brilliant strategy for stimulating new creativity when you are stuck. Good luck and document what works for you.