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Thanks for that cool technique, Dave, I"m no expert, just another intelligent home studio guy who has had a lot of experience with state of the art microphones because I did hundreds of studio sessions in the 80's and early 90's (there's none in my area any more, at least for me). If I may, what is a 'true' mic -preamp and why is the ART not one, by the way? yours, always willing to admit that he doesn't know everything and willing to learn, hopefully, Rick > Rick mentions the cheap ART tube preamps, while they are a pretty OK > sounding preamp, there's a new Electro-Harmonix mic pre for under $200 > that is a "true" tube mic pre, and I like it a lot better than the ART.