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Re: Headset mic
Okay, I have both a new Sure SM10A and my trusty
SM57 sitting here right in front of me with specs. And I also just tested them
on my laptop system. I have to say, I'm not sure where the negative comments are
coming from, because based on my test if anyone hates the SM10A, they must also
hate the SM57, because I really can't tell the difference. The 57 seems to have
just a little bit more high end, which is reflected in the spec comparisons
below. The graphics of the frequency responses both show a relatively flat
response between 200 hz and 20K. The 57 has some peaks after this that account
for it having a bit brigher repsonse than the 10A. And of course, the 57's
range starts at 40hz and the 10A at 50.
However, I do have a theory as to why someone would
compare the SM10A with a mic like the SM57 and say that the former sounds
bad. First, the SM10A is a close-talk mic, and the frequency response is
stated at a distance 8mm. Now, of course, if I place the SM57 only 8mm away from
my mouth, then of course, it's totally freakin' loud and fuller. However, when
you read the manual of the SM57, the recommended distance for voice is 25mm. And
it is at this distance that I can't tell a lot of difference between the SM57
and the SM10A. So, I'm guessing that those who don't like the SM10A either
didn't have it close enough to their mouth to get the stated frequency repsonse,
and/or when they were comparing it to a hand held mic with a similar frequency
repsonse, they had the thing almost touching their mouth, in which case I can
understand the discrepancies.
Moreover, I'm totally happy with the mic for
experimental vocal looping and laptop processing. I'm rather glad that it's
response is somewhat flat between 200hz and 2K. I'd rather add booming lows and
sizzling highs myelf for this type of music and application, rather than having
the mic do that for me. And I am able to do this with this mic.
SM57
Frequency
response (at 8mm): 40 to 15,000 Hz
Graphic of frequency reponse:
SM10A
Frequency response (at 8mm): 50 to 15,000
Hz
Kris
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Headset mic
> Howdy,
>
> General comments, yes. Eq, good luck, a
15 band
> minimum for 1 microphone might do the trick. Channel
> eq
just didn't seem to have enough control.
> Rig
>
>
>
--- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>
wrote:
>
>> Wow...some negative comments on this setup from
Rick
>> and Bill.
>>
>> Nothing that some decent EQ
can't fix. The specs
>> don't look that bad. I plan
>> to get
one anyway. I've used them before, with
>> decent results. I'm just
>> using it for experimental vocal processing into my
>>
laptop and
>> max/msp....nothing remotely close to vocal
looping
>> or typical rock/pop
>> vocals. I think it
will be fine, really.
>>
>> All mids, no treble or bass? Come
on....no treble or
>> no bass? Is this a
>>
generalization?
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Howdy,
>> >
>>
> The first band i worked in bought an sm-10 for the
>> >
drummer. STAY AWAY!!! all mids, no treble or bass.
>> >
Rig
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Krispen Hartung
<khartung@cableone.net>
wrote:
>> >
>> >> And how does it compare to the
Sure?
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>
>>
> http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_SM10A-CN_content>> >>
>> >> I am thinking of
getting this one, because it has
>> >> been compared with
the
>> >> SM58, which I'm fond of.
>>
>>
>> >> Kris
>> >>
>> >>
----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Qua Veda"
<qua@oregon.com>
>>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:21
PM
>> >> Subject: Headset mic
>> >>
>>
>>
>> >> > Hi Stefan,
>> >> > You
mentioned you are using an AudioTechnica
>> >> headset mic.
Sounds like a
>> >> > very convenient mic that frees up your
hands to
>> >> operate faders, play
>> >> >
instruments etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Can you
elaborate on your use of the mic?
>> Model #
>> >> of
the mic, how it
>> >> > sounds compared to other popular
vocal mics,
>> >> feedback rejection etc ?
>> >>
>
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > -Qua
>>
>> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>
>> > From: Stefan Tiedje
>> >>
[mailto:Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de]
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, June
07, 2007 2:37 PM
>> >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>> >> > Subject: Re: POST YOUR SETUP
>> >>
>
>> >> > Michael Peters schrieb:
>> >>
>> :-) very simple. I've grown too old to
>>
schlepp
>> >> tons of gear.
>> >> >
>>
>> > Yeah, mine fits into a small rucksack: 12"
>> >>
Powerbook running Max/MSP, Esi
>> >> > Quatafire 610, up to
three fader boxes (Fostex
>> >> MixTAB, Doepfer
PocketFader
>> >> > and PocketDial), Yamaha CBX K1 mini
keyboard -
>> all
>> >> fed by an
AudioTechnica
>> >> > headset, eventually some additional
Mics. For
>> >> "bigger"
>> >> > sets I can
throw in a Peavey RQ 200 Mixer (the
>> >> smallest mixer I know
with
>> >> > 16
>> >> > inputs, 6 of them
mic ins...)
>> >> >
>> >> > Sound sources
include, beside my voice, plastic
>> >> water bottles and
Tibetan
>> >> > bowls...
>> >> >
>>
>> > Stefan
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> > --(_|_
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>> >> > --
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>> >> >
----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
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