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I'm with you. Since converting to max, I have been experimenting with all sorts of random behaviors in my patches. It's a wonderful thing. With pitch, I like to make pitch change random, but use one expression pedal to change how fast the random pitch changes, and another to define the range of pitch (-24 to =24, etc). I'm doing this with modulation, ringmod, granular effects, etc, etc. I can setup my entire system so that patches are turned on and off randomly. Kris ----- Original Message ----- Subject: randomness > Randomness is one of the main reasons I started programming my own > software. > > While it was the imp of the perverse that made me choose that Marley >bit > at BEMF - I often use the many random functions in Kenaxis to surprise > myself. You can setup files from a chosen folder to play in a random > order at random times, hit one key and your files change randomly, hit > another key and all of your pitch and loop points change randomly. You > can also setup random processes so that things are constantly changing >on > you in random but controlled ways. > > Taming randomness and making it musical is one of my favorite > undertakings. For me it is a way to vary the static loop based approach > into something a bit more exciting - in particular when using >prerecorded > sound files. > > Stefan > >