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Since a few people have been talking about some recordings to listen to.... Any of you familiar with Oliver Shroer? I'm not sure if he has looping on his recordings but I've seen him using a boomerang live. I've been listening to his "Restless Urban Primitive" album recently and it contains so much expression that I never could have imagined coming from a violin. Most of this recording is improvised live and captured on minidisk, then cleaned up later in the studio. Amazing stuff, well worth the listen if you can track him down. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada