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Just a quick word from a someone who reads the list regularly, uses the digest version, rarely posts and has already unsubscribed several times because of the 'signal to noise ratio' (with noise just defined as something not related to looping here) : not everyone can or wants to filter the messages coming from an already quite specialized mailing list. I use the digest version of the list, for several reasons. I won't change to a non-digest version, I'd rather just unsubscribe. So, filtering each mail is not possible for me. When there are more messages not related to what I signed for than messages that do interest me, I unsubscribe again... I've already said so in the past at least once : it would be a good thing to set up another mailing list (it takes a few minutes to do so on googlegroups for example) for off-topic discussions. Call it "Loopers Delight Off Topic", just like Analogue Heaven Off Topic (AHOT) existed a few years ago for people from the AH list who wanted to talk about other things than analogue synths. This way, people who want both on-topic and off-topic subscribe to both, people who just want one thing have what they signed for :) </daviD> "Simulating the true sounds and making carefully. Many colours a lot, selected freely by you."