| Although an early user of Norton's utilities - as well as 
McAfee, who was first out of the gate in the A/V arena - I found that, over the 
years, both packages have become quite aggressive in the battle for my 
processors and RAM, to the extent that I always request they NOT be included in 
the PC packages my clients get.   A better value is found in V-com's Fix-It Pro 7 suite, not a 
lot of cash, and one gets three licenses per purchase, despite it being under 
$50.  The A/V is Trend's in the suite, and it's well-mannered.  I can 
record without taking it out of the startup, and if I do both sound and audio I 
can halt parts or all of the checking without restarting.  I bought it for 
my own setup here (three PCs and a Laptop), and recommended it to my parents, 
and siblings' families.  My PC clients have it on recommendation.  No 
complaints in over four years of implementations.  v-com.com sells it 
direct.   Big culprit on the Hogging the Startup Department - 
Hewlett-Packard's drivers are fine, but those #$* utilities programs as well as 
the badly-mannered, malfunctioning update module are worth unchecking in the 
Startup section.   By the way, rather than going through MSCONFIG one might use 
the better-functionality of the Tools section of Spybot S&D, which can be 
got for free at http://www.spybot.info/ - though this 
guy deserves the money for having pioneered awareness and prevention-elimination 
of Spyware/Adware alone. 
  ----- Original Message -----  Sent: Thursday, 11 October, 2007 17:57 
  PM Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop 
  Loopers - streamline performance, etc Another key item there is just how much of a hog the norton 
  applications are, and how hard it is to properly contain their impact on 
  performance of your machine.  I'd recommend Nod32.
 
 
 On 10/11/07, Krispen 
  Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> 
wrote:
  >> 
    Some of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig (you 
    just>> run this from Start and Run). You can deselect any of these 
    and prevent
 >> them from running at startup. However, I recently 
    read in some tech
 >> forums that msconfig is recommended primarily 
    for testing,
 >> troubleshooting, etc...not as a permanent solution 
    to altering your
 >> startup process. The claim is that this is not 
    an efficient way to end
 >> the processes and does so 
    incompletely.
 >
 > Actually, it prevents the processes from ever 
    being started.
 > Perhaps what they meant was that it didn't catch 
    every single process
 > that could start (which I think may be the 
    case).
 
 Yes, that is obviously what it does, as indicated by the 
    processes not
 appearing at re-boot
 
 > Surely you can do an 
    MSCONFIG setup, and then either use it or not.
 > At least that gives 
    you 2 different startup configs.
 > ( with a choice on startup 
    )
 
 Yes, but once you go back to your standard startup and reboot, and 
    then
 want to go back to your performance configuration, you have to 
    re-deselect
 the processes again and reboot. You cannot save the msconfig 
    configuration.
 But, more importantly, the articles are not recommending 
    msconfig as the
 approprieate way to do this. As I said, it is recommended 
    as a way to
 troubleshoot, etc, not as a permament startup configuration 
    solution. I
 don't
 have the articles on hand, but you could Google the 
    topic and find them.
 
 Kris
 
 
 
 
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 ---Miles Ward
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