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Paul, I've seen discussions on the midiguitar forum to the effect that the Graphtech connection are (or maybe WERE) tenuous, and that hotgluing them was in order so that they didn't come loose while you're playing in a less than genteel manner. Could you comment on that? Also, I'm interested in how you have signal leaving the guitar. The wiring can be done so that mag pickups signal, piezo signal, and the output from the hexpander module all ride on the 13-pin cable... but that seems likely to be a tonesucker to me, and is an issue that Richard McClish alerted me to via a discussion with John Buscarino, a luthier who made Richard's guitar. I'm inclined to keep the 13-pin cable restricted to the hexpander output and leave the pickups signals traveling on either a Y-cable, or separately on 1/4" cables. Your thoughts on this would be most welcome. Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: phaslem@wightman.ca [mailto:phaslem@wightman.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:30 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Graphtech installation was AXON AX 100 I looked at both systems, the RMC system is more geared to an acoustic type of installation, where as the Graphtech is more like the familiar saddles that you use on any electric guitar. The RMC is a much more complicated installation and I would only recommend a compentent technician do that installation. The Graphtech system is very modular with a minimal amount of soldering. You do have to comfortable enough with wood working to route out spaces in the back of the guitar and drill holes for the wires from the saddles and controls, but all that is pretty basic stuff and reachable by anyone comfortable with cutting holes in their instrument. The system is very like putting together a computer as every control and even the saddles just plug directly into the circut board. I did mine on one Sunday afternoon (that was the Parker p44 installation). If you're interested I could take some pictures of the insides of my guitars that I've installed the system in so that you can see what it looks like. best of luck with it, Paul haslem www.dulcify.ca > > Hey Paul, > Just curious,who installed it for you? i tried finding somebody in > california who would install the Graphtech or RMC system on my > fernandes sustainer but they all seemed to shy away from doing it.Ive > also havent found anybody here in germany yet who would do it if > anybody has a link id aprreciate it! > cheers > Luis >