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Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > ..snipped.. > You'll need an audio interface if you don't want to run with the >integrated > AC97 of these systems (which I expect you wouldn't for latency issues alone). > Typical better-quality interfaces (like this one http://tinyurl.com/2rpe2j) > don't come much smaller than 164x148x44mm, unless you really want to spend > money and search for tricky parts (the apogee digital PCXpress card combined > with these miniature micpres with digital ports and then something small sized > for D/A would come to mind). > ..snipped.. > > Just a thought... > > Rainer Snipped your other very good ideas; thanks a lot. The E-MU® 1212M - http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?product=9872 referredly sell at ~$100 in the US, dunno about european prices. This would give more analog I/O for stereo use, plus add S/PDIF and MIDI connections, if needed, all with pretty low latencies. One issue: As a two-card sandwich, it fills two PCI places, though only require one PCI _slot_ for connections. Your mentioned VIA board can be used with an angled PCI adapter/riser. Depending on how much it lifts above the mobo, the EMU sandwich may fall in place. Google <+"E-MU 1212M" +linux +driver> suggests Linux/ALSA support; only checked some of those links. Somewhere in this, EMU1212m is mentioned: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.13_v1.0.14rc1 For my own ideas, I'd still consider a USB touch-panel effective for a GUI design, even if more costly shopping, as it obliverates the need for designing buttons (electronics/mechanics), which of cause depends on the product target. A looper may not need much GUI operation. YMMV.. Haven't looked much for such an [affordable] panel, though.. This thread is geting more'n'more interesting by the hour ;) (BTW, please set your Outlook to autowrap at ~72 chars :) ) -- rgds, van Sinn