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Of course it all depends on what you are using this rig for. It sounds like you are trying to use it within an ensemble setting. If so, syncing with the band is an issue. The RC50 does have midi sync, but it only works when it is the master. Plogue and Ableton will work beautifully. I like Ableton very much because Im a softy. Also I like the layout, stability and compatability (rewire etc). Sooperlooper is a mac app and Mobius is a windows rig. Either can be hosted in Plogue or Ableton. It seems to make sense to use these as a virtual EDP as they are free and you already have Ableton. There is plenty of info on using these in there respective forums. Once you are up and running you will feel immortal. Go for it. You may even fire the band. Good luck. Chris On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:03 AM, andy butler wrote: > rithma wrote: >> MAN >> this looping fiasco has been the most obscenely tail chasing >> redundant goose chase ive ever been on with my robots. Two >> years ago i bought ableton live, the Behringer foot >> controller, ...and so on > > forget Ableton, that's for softies ;-) > > Get yourself Plogue Bidule, and use it as a host to run Mobius, and > whatever > other looping plug-ins you fancy. > Mobius quite likely has enough of the EDP functionality for you, > in stereo (only for pc tho', are you on mac?) > > Actually, I think Ableton does have a lot of useful features, but > the ethos is to replay canned samples. Generally "live" loop-people > using Ableton have some form of headphone to monitor a click track, > (or they mime the initial loop). > > Really though, the choice between laptop, a second EDP, or > Looperlative depends on what you actually want to do with it. > > > > andy butler >