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Rick and all, On the DL-4 I wish that it had more delay time in the regular models at leasts as much as the looper, in lieu of that I wish it had variable feedback on the looper, I love your 1/4 time switch idea. More sound mangling options! On the Boss DD-20 I don't like that it has 1- no expression pedal control 2- no feedback on the looper 3,4- no forward, reverse, half speed, double speed switchs 5- except for some tricks talked about on this list you can't go back and forth between ( i wish all of the presets) two or more presets, modifying them as you go. 6- I wish that you could stop, start the playback of a loop with the push of a button (no stutters on this one) That said the two of them together are a blast. Good topic Rick! Jeff http://www.thisphase.org/lips.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:53 AM Subject: WHAT DON'T YOU LIKE ABOUT YOUR LOOPER(S) > I"m being approached continually by newbies and asked > about my recommendations about what to buy when getting > started with live looping. > > I have my own personal favorites in different price ranges (and I'm >mostly > talking about hardware here, though do alert people to how many options > are > available through cool new software solutions). > > One thing I thought might be valuable as a resource is to find out > what people DON'T like about their favorite loopers and what, > in a perfect world, the loop manufacturers would add to an > existing looping pedal (or software solution). > > It's nice to know what the drawbacks are in a pedal when you are trying > figure out if you want to buy it or not. > > I'll start off by listing one of my favorites stomp box loopers: > The Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller/Looping pedal (street price $250): > > > > WHAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE LINE 6 DL-4: > > I love this pedal but wish to hell that it was a true stereo pedal >rather > than > a sum to mono pedal that purports to be stereo. > > Additionally, I wish it had midi synchronization. > > I know that all units that do midi synchronization cost a lot more, so > it makes me wonder. Does adding midi sync capability truly > add that much to a floor model live looping device? > > And one last wish: I think it would be cool if it had a 1/4 time switch > as well as a 1/4 time switch for the loops (which would allow one to > do things that are 4 times as fast or 4 times as slow depending on > how one started recording (in 1/4 time bandwidth or full time bandwidth) > > I know that this would add so many artifacts that the loop would sound > really weird and non-naturalistic: That's why I wish it had such a > feature > which seems not too difficult to program. > > Now the Line 6 people have, in the past, been completley uninterested in > adding features for the sake of the looping community. The live looping > community is just a small fraction of the people who buy this > pedal (mostly for it's digital modellings of all the cool delay units of > yesteryear). > > Still, this is what I"d add. > > What do you all think about your favorite pedals limitations? > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM > >