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> Did you set up the two delays in parallel or series? If in series, which was first? Two relatively short delays (in the 500ms range) in series, with the longer delay coming first. Moderately high feedback. One note would ping-ping-ping into a kind of whirl of infinity, like looking into the eye of a hurricane. Highly recommended. I'm really eager to work with this using long delays, and to explore other ratios that do not have low common denominators. It's kind of an "anti-groove" concept, but immediately attractive to the ear. Well, at least MY ear. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "The volume knob on your telepathy is your morality." - Stephen Gaskin, The Farm