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Daryl Shawn wrote: > Whoa...is there time-stretching, apart from pitch? Or are you referring > to the simultaneous pitch/time shifting? Yes, it will time stretch at normal pitch, ...or it will do the simultaneous pitch time thing. Not both though. > > Artifacts = yummy! and when you overdub on a time stretched loop you get double the artifacts. > > I didn't realize it had reverb. I'm never too interested in that but if > it's crappy and "mushy" as you say I might find it useful. It's a rather long reverb, and is somewhat obviously digital. It's intended just to diffuse one of the echo settings, but can also be got on it's own with a bit of tweaking. > > Too bad about the batteries. > > thanks, Andy - you're welcome andy > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Rainer pretty much covers the subject here, so I'll just add a couple >> of points >> >> Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >>> Short summary: got one, don't really need it (had already two looper >>> stompboxes), but didn't return it. >>> >>> Slightly longer version: >>> There are three things that suck: >>> 1. varispeed is only available for the looper, not for the delays >>> 2. you have to hold down one footswitch for recording/overdubbing >>> (not so much of a problem if you're wearing shoes) >> >> I don't have any problem without shoes, but it's a somewhat clunky way >> to make a loop and not so easy to get it accurate >> >>> 3. no independent mix control for looper and delay >> >> In general you can either control the delays, or the loop, but not both. >> You can't stop the Loop without turning off the delays. >> >>> 4. only delays up to 3 seconds >> >> and tap time won't go up to the full 3s >> >> 5. Won't run on batteries >> 6. To re-record a loop the process is hit Bypass, hold Tap for 500mS >> or more, hit Bypass, then make the new loop. >> 7. Time stretching is full of artefacts ( could be a plus ) >> >> 8. Reverb (which can be got on it's own) is digital mush (again, could >> ba a plus) >> >>> >>> Well, 2 is not so much of a letdown, and for 4 I already got the >>> DD20, but 1 >>> and 3 are. >>> >>> Nice things: >>> 1. you can varispeed the loop >>> 2. lowpass/highpass (which sits in the feedback for the delays, but >>> unfortunately in the output path for the looper) >>> 3. you can adjust feedback level while overdubbing (EDPers call >this >>> "secondary feedback") >> >> EDPers call it feedback, "secondary feedback" is a Mobius term >> >> >>> 4. small package >> >> 5. "Instant Reverse" : just hold "tap" and you hear what you just >> played coming out backwards for up to 6s( as an alternative to the >> loop). This function alone makes the pedal worthwhile, great for band >> use. >> >> 6.Reverse echo is capable of some interesting textures. >> >> 7. Can be persuaded to be a flanger or chorus with a bit of effort. > >