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Original Message ----- > Sounds good to me!! > > Of course, just a side note, one doesn't need looping technology to do > chordal improvisation. I do it all of the time, freely contructing >complex > chords or tone clusters on the fly to suit the feel of the moment, etc. > > Kris Sure. But improvising both chords and melody simultaneously is what makes it most interesting. Of course that is traditionally possible with polyphonic instruments as in jazz piano á la Jarret or Kessel style guitar, but doing it with one voice instruments is where looping comes in pretty handy. LOL, Kris - I KNEW you should respond to this post! ;-) Got Max5 yet, eh? ;-))))D K: Yes, I am getting predictable these days. Darn. I'll have to work on that. And yes, you are right, my comment was more appropraite for polyphonic instruments, and more specifically polyphonic instrument players who play their instruments that way - piano, several jazz guitar players, etc. I think improvising chords and melody at the same time on the gutiar is not as hard as it seems. It is REALLY hard when playing jazz standards and you have to improvise that way within an idiom, but when freely playing I find it much easier to improvise chordally and integrate an improvised melody at the same time. It seems more natural than having to do it inside a framework, which is why I'll never be a Joe Pass soloist. That style of playing just blows me away...amazing. One could argue that even my seemingly parallel chordal and melodic improvisation is really just sequential chordal and sequential melodic improvisation, but switching back so fast that it sounds they are in parallel. It's like the difference between true multithreading processing on computes and processors that do multi-tasking but on the same thread. They have the speed and efficiency to go back and forth between two tasks very quickly so that the end result is the appearance of true parallel multi-tasking. I think many peoplel who multitask well are probably doing something similar. I have not got Max 5 yet, and will probably wait to see how users report back on it after a year or so. Right now I am using only my customized KaiserLooper in Max, plus my reverb and basic delay objects...nothing else. So there won't be much immediate advantage in me moving to the new version. I have taken a break from the effect building and focusing more on playing and recording now. Kris