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Well, the way I do a fade-out is to have a volume pedal after the looper in the chain. I do jazz, so I've come up with one main trick to do endings. I have two RC-20's that have pre-recorded drums in them, and this goes into an Echoplex. I use the RC-20s strictly to play back drum loops, and the only reason I use 2 is so I will have 22 drum loops available instead of just 11. The same method could be used with only one drum loop playback device. I do a lot of Count Basie type endings like: Chord with bass+drums --> solo riff without bass & drums --> last chord with single bass & drums hit At the beginning I play drums loops out of one of the RC-20s mixed with a bass sound, and record this all into the Echoplex. Then play that back, stop the RC-20, and turn the RC-20's select knob with my foot to its last slot, which contains a one-shot bass drum/cymbal hit for the last note. Then I play through the tune, soloing and playing the out-head. On the last phrase I hit "Mute" on the Echoplex to shut off the recorded bass/drum loop, play the "Count Basie" riff, and then play a last chord while simultaneously hitting Play on the RC-20 to play the last drum hit. That's the way I do it, but it requires one pedal for drum loop playback and another for the actual looping. Maybe you could use some variation of this, I dunno. It took me a long time to figure out any way to end a tune other than fading out with the volume pedal, at least one that would sound like something out of the jazz tradition. It works pretty well. Check out the "Shiny Stockings" mp3 to hear it: http://www.marksmart.net/bands/jazzlooping/jazzlooping.html Here is my setup if you haven't seen it before: http://www.marksmart.net/gearhack/jazzpedalboard/jazzpedalboard.html#V2 Mark Smart On 7/19/08, Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> wrote: > Hi > > I'm new at this and have only had my Boss RC-2 for a week but I'm hooked >and > 'want more' and of course the more is more features on a looper. I'm >looking > especially for a looper that can provide for smooth endings to live > performances – one of which would be 'fade-out'. I believe the RC20 or 50 > may do this. > > Any advice on this topic would be helpful. > > Mike > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net