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Bill, 2 questions bro: distortions how good?(fuzz,ods etc.) can its switch board control call devices simultaneously in different channels like the fcb1010 via midi? cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 8/12/08, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: > From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> > Subject: Re:Line 6 JM4, M13 was new looper > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 3:45 PM > Front what I can tell, the new JM-4 doesn't do reverse > or half speed and I > doubt it can sync to midi clock. But hay how about those > snazzy generic > backing tracks????????????....Whatever.... > > But on the other hand , lurking inside the new Line 6 M-13 > , which is > essentially every modeler they have created in one unit, is > a new and > improved DL-4, that boasts 28 seconds of loop time at > normal track speed > (double that length for half speed), separate switches for > half speed and > reverse, and an undo function, and another feature with > perhaps the most > creative potential, a switch that allows you to toggle the > looper between > post and pre placement.Way Cool. I tried this with a filter > model and a > little delay to create a polyrhythm and it was really nice > to be able to > switch back and forth between having the loop processed and > not. Still no > midi sync as far as I can tell, though the tap tempo > feature can sync up > both delay and modulation effects. You have to hold a > dedicated switch to > enter loop mode but the switches for the looper are wisely > placed on the two > rows closest to the performer. The down side if there is > one is having to > pony up for all the extra modelers, but I think it retails > for around $500 > so for what it has to offer, an array of distortion, fuzz > and overdrives, > all of there great delays, modulation and filter models, > reverbs, and > upgraded looper, all running simultaneously, with more > programmability, two > expression pedal ports, etc., its pretty intriguing. It has > newly designed > switches, though whether they are more or less robust > remains to be seen. > They have a slightly less audible click from what I could > tell. > > I have always been a fan of the DL-4, I understand a > number of you have had > issues with the switches, and it has been my experience > that the main > culprit in there failure for me has been when I have > allowed the nuts > attaching the switches to get loose. If they get loose > enough it allows the > switch to lean slightly and can cause the plunger to miss > align on the > contact switch, which, if done with enough force can even > cause the little > plastic cylinder in the spring, or even the spring itself > to come off. So I > make sure to, hmhhm, keep my nuts tight..If there is a > bright side to this > some what cheap design, the switches themselves are > available from the > company, unlike from some companies (behringer, are you > listening?...no I > didn't think so) , and though replacement requires > removing the main board > to get to, are easy to replace and fairly cheap. > > bill