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Just teasing, Mark. I must have had 10 questions so far this year (mostly on other lists) where I said "I'm not looking for software or max patches", and all the replies I got were "dude, max patches!" It gave me a giggle to see it happen to someone else. Yes, most of the stuff in my current rig is a computer of some sort, but they're all built to do specific things. I heart my hardware. Even though I'm a big fan of computer music, the idea of replacing all my gear with a universal tool of awesomeness doesn't appeal to me. If all the drum machines in the world were to burst into flames tomorrow, I'd find other instruments before I started getting involved with dr-660 emulators on my laptop. Matt Mark Sottilaro was all: > From his post it seemed he didn't want to tackle making a looper in Max >MSP. > Anyone who even is aware of Max and the Lemur is already saying that > they've got some computer music knowledge. > > Do you really think your Boss DR-660 isn't a computer?