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I'm not sure whether this dimension of the discussion has been highlighted in this thread - if so, please forgive me... In my case, I much prefer the sound of my 'real' tube amp with or without a pedalboard full of effects to any of the modeling systems I have tried. I like the way the sound is localized on stage, and to my mind, I have found the best tone ever. However... When using my looping rig, I use a modeling amp (Line6 PodXT or Johnson J-Station) through a full-range PA (in stereo when practical). It's a trade off that I feel is necessary to eliminate the need for an open mic onstage or a line output from the amp, neither of which ever seems completely satisfying. The trade off becomes more practical for a number of reasons: 1) the primary guitar tone I dial up is exactly the same one fed to the looper 2) I can blend the looped instance in to taste post-fader and maintain the balance much more easily (especially for low-volume situations). 3) I don't need to carry the amp around when I'm already hauling the looping (rack) system and a small PA system. If I never got to play my real amp outside of the living room I'd be very distressed. But I expect to always have a nice small-ish tube amp and it will hopefully continue to see action on the local club scene. Of course I may one day have problems with Nurse Ratched at the nursing home about that. Finally, I'm working on a laptop solution which will eventually eliminate the hardware-based modeling amp - Amplitube II seems to be as good as any of them and I got a license for stupid-cheep. I see the looping rig hardware components pared down to a guitar, an Axon AX100 MKII controller, footcontroller and a laptop (and a full-range PA, of course). Dan Ash White Plains, NY