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On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:58 AM, K D Patten wrote: > always go for > balance........ > http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/ > offset_calc.html > > http://www.junkscience.com/ Ahh...That is associated with Fox News -- the fair and balanced crowd, the let us over-consume because it is our tradition and patriotic duty group, the *regulation is bad* because it interferes with our ability to rape and pillage the planet network. I've always disliked the *warming* issue because it is too easy for people to dither ( geologic time scales etc.) and ignore the fact of the excessive impact of our species on all ecological functions -- CO2 is just one of many, many forms of pollution we spew into the world. (Recent data links sunscreen lotion use to coral reef devastation.) Fertilizer fun-off, dead zones in the ocean, over-fishing, massive deforestation etc. etc.... And of course over-population: way too much pressure on delicate and sensitive ecological systems. Why is it that conservatives (Fox News) don't want to conserve anything (except maybe archaic social taboos)? Why is the Right nearly always wrong? I think there has been within the last century the emergence of a new species: Obliviates. These are people who don't care about the future, don't care about the effect of their actions and lifestyle on the world and use denial to support their delusions. Fox News is the obliviate network. A simple thing to do to help: stop eating beef, stop supporting the beef cattle industry. To decrease my rant footprint, let me just say: whenever possible, live more gently and intelligently. regards BobC