Re: Best way to use EDP & tube amp w/out an effects loop?

["L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

I am also very curious about this ones,ther is only one of each but they 
seem to sound better than a lot of the multi fx amp simulators 

http://www.tech21nyc.com/character_series.html

put one on your pedal board and it would certainly help the schleppen 
factor

cheers

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Andreas Willers <a.willers@arcor.de> wrote:

> From: Andreas Willers <a.willers@arcor.de>
> Subject: Re: Best way to use EDP & tube amp w/out an effects loop?
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 12:35 PM
> Hi Zak,
> 
> I'm like you - I also use vintage tube amps without
> effect loops  
> (Hiwatt, Gibson, Fender) together with a couple of
> stompboxes and an  
> EDP - it works great for me! I make sure that I put one
> (not more  
> than two) buffered stompboxes with more or less clean
> buffers (like  
> analog Boss pedals or TC stuff, not Nobels, Danelectro
> e.g.) before  
> the EDP in the chain to convert my guitar output into low
> impedance,  
> the other pedals are true bypass. I also had the input
> section of my  
> EDP customized by a well known guitar tech here in Germany
> called  
> Dirk Baldringer who makes a system called the "effects
> legalizer"  
> that all the big time rock/studio guys put into their
> "fridges" over  
> here. I don't know how he does it but he certainly
> cleaned up the  
> EDP's signal, also setting of levels is much less
> critical than before.
> 
> Two other workarounds I can fully recommend for just above
> 100 bucks:
> 
> - the Barge Concepts pedalboard loopboxes with BLEND
> function (wet/ 
> dry mix for the effect you put into the loop). I use their
> VB-jr. for  
> my Boss reverbs and delays that tend to add digital noise
> or phase  
> alterations to the dry signal. Works great with compressors
> and other  
> stuff, too! Uses high quality components and was made
> specifically  
> for this purpose, very low noise floor.
> 
> - the Lehle P-Split splits your passive, low impedance
> guitar signal  
> using a top quality transformer. Has a ground lift and a
> phase  
> switch. That way you can send one signal to one amp and the
> other via  
> the EDP to another amp (or a second channel of e.g. a
> Hiwatt, a  
> Fender Vibrolux etc.etc.)
> 
> Of course a digial setup has a lot of interesting
> applications but it  
> will NEVER, EVER be able to substitute for a well
> maintained tube  
> guitar amp. A rented Fender Twin with chinese tubes is
> another story,  
> but still better in most cases.
> 
> In fact, at the 2008 Berlin Loopfest Leander asked
> everybody to use  
> the PA for my set and I took the plunge and plugged a
> couple of  
> stompboxes followed by the EDP into the house via a
> G-Tronix  
> Stimulator DI-box w. speaker simulation (similar to the
> more popular  
> Palmer devices, but smaller). I did work fine more or less
> and  
> reduced schlepping quite a bit!
> 
> Regards, Andreas