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Hi, Todd. We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so thought I should speak up!
I think, first of all, you'd benefit more from a pre-amp, as opposed to a DI, which will boost the signal and hopefully get rid of the hiss, etc. which I think is there because you need to turn it up too much to get a decent signal into your ultralite.
Pre-amps are just as much of a personal choice as pick-ups. I know the Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum Bass Preamplifier is popular and generally highly recommended. http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLATINUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html.
I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and pretty happy with it. http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=79&cat=1&id=1. It doesn't have an EQ (which the Fishman does) but that's not a big deal for me.
I see that David Gage doesn't offer a pre-amp but you might want to email them to see if they recommend a certain unit.
For more help and info, check out the double bass forums at TalkBass - www.talkbass.com
Feel free to email me off-list if you've got more questions.
Ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Subject: Looping upright bass?To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM
I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into a
lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have
been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my
recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how
to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm
using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This
sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I can't
play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much
better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on
each pass.
I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using a
bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes
between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. (
http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html
) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live
and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After
doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug
the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU
ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still
extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the
noise gets multiplied.
I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most
pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound
good plugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound good
recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge
the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the
noise and/or hum.
I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp
into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into
the ultralite without success either.
Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a
mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound
playing the bass arco or pizz?
Thank you in advance,
Todd
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