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Re: OT: I love it

The comment that struck me most from this was the "think about it" one.

"think about it".  About what?  A conversation/discussion was occurring.  Person A presented a thought, person B said "i don't get your drift"... Person A then says "think about it" as if that somehow will make Person B get what Person A meant.  Hey Person A, that's the whole thing of discussion, if you want someone to understand what you are saying, you have to try.  Telling someone to "think about it" as if that will somehow put them where you are is highschoolish and absurd in a massive level. 

Further evinced: you think something, a person listening says "I don't hear what you're saying".  So you say "no, think about it" meaning, "what you are saying".  And yet, how are they supposed to hear it if you won't speak further, since clearly what you've said hasn't shown them such?  You're not asking them to think about IT... you're asking them to think about IT in the ways which YOU do.

I love exemplary egotism.

In a funny, I love to hate, because it's so absurd kind of way.

Nevyn Nowhere
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On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:30 PM, RICHARD SALES <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
Well I was just about rolling on the floor on this one (see below).  Haven''t been on the list for a while - really busy - and I just happened on this exchange as first re-entry.  And it's just glorious.  I might print it and put it up in the studio.  

But I, OF COURSE and always fully support Bill Walker in his position.  I won't say anything else, because I can't recall where I left my asbestos suit.   

RICHARD SALES

On Nov 5, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:



I thought you lived in the UK, not North Korea. lol

You only academically know the difference, so it must be lost on yez.

Um...yeah. moving right along...


The characteristics rarely tell anything but the truth of it, behaviourally.

Sorry, but I have no idea what this means.

Think about it then.

I can't take time to pour over the meaningless utterance you gave us above. It makes *no sense* as written. I see this kind of thing all the time in student papers, however. I'm afraid I'd have to take a few points off under "mechanics" in my grading rubric. I would be kind and just write "vague" in the margins, though. :)


How about the tear-stained people going on about how Obama would  solve their gas bill problem?  What's that?

Nor this...

It was a response to something you said.  Or have you forgotten already?  Do your own research.

I never said anything about Obama, crying supporters and gas (petrol? or heating?) bills. I'm quite sure of that.



So you might be an educated idiot but I didn't call you one, did I?

You did when you said I (and others) was (were) brainwashed.

Not the same.  You can be a doctor several times over and be brainwashed. Being a very smart person doesn't in itself prevent that person from being duped into such a state.

Yeah, ok. I have a Ph.D from the University of Chicago. I'm a college professor. I teach people how to think for a living. But, sure, I'm brainwashed because some moron who lives in the "oppressive" (!), liberty-depriving (!)  United Kingdom says so.



Your assumption that I would act like a Democrat following the 2000  or 2004 elections is probably not more than a theoristic mistake.

"theoristic"?

Academics rely on theories to describe the universe, more so when they never leave their offices.

You're a simpleton if you believe academics naively "describe the universe" (umm...it's more complicated than that, but subtlety and complexity are usually lost on right wingers from my experience). Second, we leave our offices all the time. You, on the other hand, might try picking up a book. But, all of that aside, "theoristic" isn't a word, Mr. Webster. Maybe you meant "theoretical" (for those of us who have some command of the English language)?


 "Change"?  What change precisely can you refer to?

The move away from Bush/Cheney's imperialism, for starters. Changes  in economic policy, health care reform...etc. etc. for another.

Imperialism?  In which handbook did you get such a term?  You use words with a cavalier disregard for their meaning.

I suggest *you* go look it up and study its history. For starters, read Edward Said's "Orientalism". I don't have time to dust off my bibliographies and give you citations out the wazoo...but that's a good place to start.



Oh, it's so AWFUL in the US huh?  Like I said many times since  moving to the UK, every American should have the chance to be  deprived of his liberties and freedoms, by the simple act of living  outside the US.

It's not about liberties and freedoms. It's about trying to pay your mortgage, fear of losing your job, inability to get (or keep)  healthcare, and a host of other things that matter in our day to day  lives.

And you blame Republicans for all of the above?

There's a lot of blame to go around. Republicans have to take the lion's share. They've led us down this path.

By the way, who gives a fat frog's ass about Scientology? I sure  don't. Go fight your way against those people who are also  (apparently) trying to take away your precious freedoms, freedoms  which are already (apparently!) under assault in the UK! lol Leave  those of us who are grounded in reality back here in the US of A  alone to celebrate our victory. Thanks!

You don't seem to be able to leave the keyboard, O Celebrating One.

Nor you. And thanks for the honorific title. I do prefer Dr. Celebrating One, however.

I'm with Bill (Walker) on this one. This is a joyous, incredibly important moment in American history. I'm thrilled to have witnessed it. It's a monumental, watershed moment for African Americans as well, and I'm overjoyed when I see black college students in tears dancing in the street.   And if you don't like it...if you don't sense the importance of this moment...well, you've got a very dark soul, and I'd say you're probably a miserable person. That's about the end of it for me.


Jeff