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Hey Ted, I am now using a Flip Ultra $115.00 on Amazon. I am also completly new to video so I read reviews and they were great for this price break. The sound record part is also pretty fair for what it is. I like it . 1 hour record, built in usb, and internal software which I don't use. The problem I had was that I could not open its AVIs in Sony Vegas or even Windows Movie Maker, all I got was audio. I checked around and found that if I converted the AVI it makes to WMV it worked fine. Slow though. I just upgraded my old Vegas 6.0 to 9.0 platinum for 50.00 and it works like a charm without converting. http://www.theflip.com/store/Product.aspx?CID=F2 Says that it works with a mac. As far as Mac software check the forums http://www.maclife.com/forums/post/1503267 There is a ton of stuff on it. Hope this helps at all, Jeff Says that it works with a mac. ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" <tedkillian@charter.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:49 PM Subject: OT: QUESTIONS ANOUT LOW-FI DIGITAL VIDEO CAMS Greetings Spacefarers, Like a good many of you I am finding myself watching in amazement as some of our colleagues from this very LD list create and post some rather nice little (if grainy) videos online - the most creative of which seem to be done especially on the cheap and low-fi end of the technology spectrum. Fascinated as I am myself with this phenomenon, I continue to feel somewhat fearful about trying anything similar of my own for the simple fact that (even though I am a parent of 3 children) I have never even owned a video camera in my life. On occasion, some friend at some function or gathering will hand a camcorder to me so I can continue to record some scene while they themselves are otherwise occupied. This has always left me feeling rather nervous (even though I am quite comfortable around "still" cameras - digital or otherwise - having studied photography in HS and college). But that is the sum of my experience with the things. The short version of the long story: when the kids were small, cameras were bulky, complex and expensive . . . we were poor and had other survival considerations in mind than providing video fodder for deprived grandparents only a few hours away. So we never bought one. Now these things are getting smaller and seemingly cheaper all the time (even in the range I am thinking of . . . like one of those little Flip Video DV Cams). Someone on the list recently mentioned the Flip Cam as something they used. Anyone using one and also using a Mac to edit their video on? Other solutions and/or suggestions (given that I am solidly committed to the Mac platform - it's what I've been using for 20 years)? What software are you editing these videos in. Thanks for any info any of you might provide. tEd ® KiLLiAn Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. - Mark Twain http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1774 - Release Date: 11/7/2008 7:58 PM