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thanks for all your help guys. it turns out it was my lack of knowledge that made this so painful. I didn't realize that the line ins would pick up so little sound when the mic was plugged in, and it's my only other device capable of inputting to the box besides the pad. turns out the cable going from the pad to the firebox just recently broke and that was the whole problem. after swapping the cables everything works fine now. thanks again for all the help! -Nick On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > > Nick wrote: >> >> Rainer, >> >> thanks for the advice. it seems the problem occurs somewhere between >> the input into the firebox and ableton live reading the input. as that >> is the only program I have that lets me choose the input channels, im >> not sure how to determine if the issue is hardware or software. also, >> I reinstalled the firmware on the firebox and restarted my imac and no >> change. >> >> actually, I just tested the firebox connected to my macbook pro with a >> fresh install of ableton and a mic plugged in to input line 3 (where >> the pad previously was) and it's still at about 10% input volume. > > that seems to be working perfectly then, > you won't get a lot of volume plugging a mic into a line socket. > >> Unless there's a control for the input volume on the firebox (which I >> don't see for the line ins) should I assume the box's inputs are >> broken all of a sudden? >> >> is there any way for me to test to see if the box's hardware is broken >> for sure, other than the deductive logic I just used to conclude that? > > you're logic is good, > but your apparent assumption that you should get a good strong signal > putting > a mic into a line socket would lead to the wrong conclusion. > > Try a line source that you know to be working, with a lead > that you know to be working. > > Or try the Kaos pad and it's lead into some other device to checkit > > andy > > >> >> Thanks, >> Nick >> > >