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Mark said: "whats this Kunaki.com thing.. gonna check after this..." Kunaki is a service which makes CDs and DVDs (I'll only focus on the CD part here). There is no initial setup cost, and there is a fixed price of $1.75 per CD, independently of the number of units ordered in one go or over lifetime. There are some downsides - to qoute their website's FAQ: "Kunaki operates more like a machine than a business and does not offer a personalized service. [...] Because Kunaki is highly automated and focused on quality, low price, and fast production, we offer a minimal range of options." That's the biggest downside. The only option is a jewel case with black tray and 2-page booklet (everything printed in coulor). Another downside (for some) is that there are very specific rules and a very specific flow for supplying your CD content. You use their custom configuration software. It reads the data from a CD in your computer, then you select several image documents (TIFF 8bit RGB, NOT 16bit like it says on their website), also within the software, and the software handles uploading data to their site. Want to give them a WAV file and replication report instead? Doesn't work. Want to use prepress PDFs? Doesn't work. Want a transparent jewel case, four-page booklet, slim case or digipak? Doesn't work. On the other side, everything they do (including handling your orders and providing a web shop where your fans can order your CDs at a price set by you) is free except for the cost to you of $1.75 per CD. Basically, if you can live with the limitations (and the most challenging ones for me are the package limitations), it allows for a really extremely simple business plan. The only pre production costs you have are the time you spend to compile your album and its artwork, put it into the format they like and use their software to transfer it. Starting from that point, your total income per CD is the difference of price you set in their webshop minus $1.75 for the sales you do from their webshop, or your selling price minus 1.75$ and pro-rata shipping costs (for those you sell e.g. at concerts). They also dropship to amazon and CDbaby at no additional cost. Rainer