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ok, the mention of the "5-DISC CHANGER" makes me laugh! that seems like such a long time ago. my 1st sony one that i bought in '93, lasted about 10 yrs, then the next 2 i bought barely last more than a year. wow, that was a blast from the past. not that i'm in the ipod, put all my albums in mp3 format, i still listen to my CD's (my wife says i'm the only one she knows that listens to full cds from start to end), in my very convaluted stereo setup... i did go to guitar center today and tested out boss dd7, and was sort of impressed w/ the long delay setting (still don't know how the 6.4 sec of delay comes in to play, it seemed only to be about 3 sec of delay to me). didn't play w/ it much, kind of hard in the setting w/ everyone playing their heavy metal riffs very loudly. i also briefly tested a digitech dl8, couldn't get a feel for it in the long mode, the time setting seemed more "notched" vs. the smoother boss dd7 time control knob. i guess i need to get out my boss dd20 and see how it functions, since i've put it away for quite awhile in favor of my boss rc20. happy looping. s----