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Hi, I'm a bit busy now but I may find time to get back this later tonight. It's fun to discuss, but what I'm really looking for is a solution that brings all the listed functions - not just a bunch of them that "can be done". I really kept the list minimal for what the Steppo setup needs to be playable IMHO. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote: > Hi Per > > as Jeff suggested, single shot loops are no problem for Mobius (and >should be a piece of cake for any other looper imo). > >>My idea needs scaling to the simplest musical timing values (fourth >note, dotted, triplet etc) > Yes, you can achieve that. The trick is to prepare ryhthmic MIDI Ableton >clips for triggering the samples. So, i.e. in Clip1 you trigger the loop >every beat (4 midi triggers in one Ableton loop), in Clip2 you trigger >the beat twice a beat (8 midi triggers in one Ableton loop), in Clip3 you >trigger the beat in triplets (3 midi triggers in one Ableton loop) and so >on... > Obviously, you'd still have the same loop length. However, you could >i.e. also send a "half-speed" command via MIDI witihin Clip2 etc. > > Now, for overlapping notes: > First of all, you define in your Ableton Clip containing the MIDI >harmonies what you will hear simulatneously (via Vocal Harmonizer). > If you'd like to have a distinct attack while the other loop fades out, >you would need a workaround: When you record your sample, you duplicate >your loop (Mobius script?) and trigger the two (identical) loops >alternatively via midi from Ableton. > > I know this is not the out-of-box MAX/MSP tool you'd like to have - but >I think you can get pretty far with such an approach (you could i.e. >create rhythmic/harmonic patterns on the fly by recording MIDI clips into >Ableton via keys/midi-guitar...). > > What you want is not really that unrealstic- so, stay on it! :-) > > best regards > Buzap > > -- > Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL > für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a > >