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Thanx for the tips Bill And Jeff,the nut is something i was not paying much atention to thinking it was mostly due to the quality of the tremolo system.Ive set it flat recently,they come setup with a floating one and it has helped, but it still goes out of tune specially the G string.The nut is the stock one that comes with this models, so ill change it with a geaphite one. ive also swapped the stock pickup for a seymour duncan vintage 59,and though i like it mostly for overdrive i miss that bright and out of phase tone of a tele or strat when playing clean.Iv been asking around if its possible to get such tones changing pickup configurations on this guitars but ive been told by guitar techs that no matter what i do fernandes guitars just wont sound like that ever due to their construction materials.But how is it that some cheap guitars have a great tone then?! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote: > From: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: Tremol-No > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:26 PM > Luis, > I have a Fenandes w/ sustainor and tremelo. Mine stays in > tune pretty well. I don't wang it like in the old days > but still use it maybe too much, lol. > Some things you can do to help are to use all 5 springs, > make sure that the strings don't stick at the nut (#1 > reason for detuning IMO). I also use lubrication on all > moving parts and the nut grooves. Graphite works great for > me. I have mine set where it will go up a half step or down > to string slack. I also wind my strings up the peg and > don't use the string tree. I had a Kayler once that I > liked alot but I think you loose something when the strings > don't go through the body. > > peace man, > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" > <labaloops@yahoo.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Cc: <billwalker@baymoon.com> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: Tremol-No > > > hey Bill, > I was not aware of this thank you!it certainly looks like a > great tremolo issue problem solution! > questions: > Does it also take care of the out of tune problems when > using the tremolo heavily floating or flat? > Did you install it yourself or do you recomend somebody > else doing it? > How would it differ with something like the hipshot > tremsetter? > I have a fernandes sustainer native pro guitar and the > tremolo on it just sucks i cant hardly use it as it goes out > of tune so bad,on the other hand i hate the floyd rose > system so i am trying to find a good solution. > Ive installed the planet waves locking tuner though they > havent cure the problem that much > cheers > Luis > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: Tremol-No > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 3:04 AM > > Googled it and found http://www.tremol-no.com and > watched > > the demo > > videos. This is a great thing for a studio guitarist! > One > > example is > > playing country licks on a floating bar strat. You > > typically pull up > > one string while holding one or two others not pulled. > The > > tension > > from the pulled-up string interacts with the mechanics > to > > lower the > > pitch of all strings, including the ones you play > > non-pulled. The way > > I have been forced to do this - on a floating bar > strat - > > is to > > compensate for that by pulling up the pitch just a > little > > with the > > wammy bar as I pull the string. May sound cool if you > use > > the whammy > > for an additional vibrato but it is not pure country > style. > > But when > > setting the tremol-no to fixed it will behave just > like a > > non-floating > > strat. Nice. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Andreas Willers > > <a.willers@arcor.de> wrote: > > > Bill wrote: I have a thing called a tremel-no in > > place of one of my trem > > > springs that allows me to fix the bridge.... > > > > > > Bill, > > > you are always hip to the latest stuff. Wow - > I'll > > make each of my guitar > > > students with a whammy bar guitar buy one ;-) > > > > > >